Neill C. Payne Executive Director of Southern Legal Resource Center Attacks Black, Native American Southerners

"Black Confederate Soldier Foundation" Attacks on our 1st Sergeant Harrison by Anthony Hervey New Allegations Regarding Anthony Hervey By Former Associate

1st SGT Harrison, 37th Texas, Co. B

Words from the Executive Director Southern Legal Resource Center

(Editor's note - Neill Payne is the Executive Director of the "Southern Legal Resource Center" [SLRC] and the referenced Bill Rolen is a notoriously open racist from Tennessee - this unsolicited message appears exactly as it was received except for bold text and notation of Payne's derogatory terms for Black and Native Southerners) Subject: Rolen and the "Southern" Ring Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 12:57:59 -0400 From: SLRC <slrc@cheta.net> Organization: Southern Legal Resource Center To: mkelley@gcip.net, scvecho@dixie-net.com To Mike Kelly; It has been some time since I have witnessed a more pretentious person in action. Your attack on the Tennessee Division for their honorable support of a REAL Southerner, viz. Bill Rolen, is as stunning a display of frozen effrontery as I have ever seen. Who are you to presume so much? You, what ever you are, are in thought and deed exactly like the sanctimonious Yankee bastards from whom "our" ancestors sought to seceed. We just can't seem to get shed of you people. Oh now, don't start telling me what a Southerner you are and trotting out your pedigree again. I've seen it. I only need to see the fruit to know what kind of tree I am looking at. Speaking of trees, I think of woods and speaking of woods makes me think of woodpiles. Speaking of woodpiles makes me think what might be in them. I've often suspected multi-culti maniacs like you of harboring an Aborigine in the arborage. In your case it is a red wood instead of a black gum. No matter. The fact is that (to mix the metaphore also) you have a little horse manure in the ice cream and you want us to pretend it's just chocolate chips. You also want us to pretend that our ancestors liked horse manure in the ice cream too. Those whom you find don't have quite your taste, you accuse them of food-purity-ism and of being a-historical vestiges of anachronistic, gastronomical imperialism. But, if you know anything about the old South, you know how much store they set by "who your people were." You know Cuffy (Payne's term for Blacks) and Squanto (Payne's term for Native Americans) were not welcome in the parlor unless they were serving drinks. The majority of the Old South had nothing to do with anyone who sought out the society of inferiors or "heaven forbid" had them in their pedigree. I've met a few misfits like you in the resurgent Pro-Confederate movement who, like you, are "Desperately Seeking Negroes." They, like you, see the South rising again to reclaim its place among the civilizations of the earth. They, like you, become possessed with this demon-inspired, Hell-spawned mania to remake the South in their own image. Ultimately, they, like you, will never rest until they have clapped their iron-bound idiocy on everyone else. They, as their Puritan intellectual forefathers, are never having more fun than when they are purging the heretics or hunting witches. Southern gentility, which your purport to admire, would make some allowance for cranks and eccentrics like you people. But, forbearance is never enough for. You are not content for us to allow you to huddle in a corner babbling about what a proto-Multiculturalist Gen. Forrest was. No, you're a carbon copy DamnYankee. You're damned and determined to force-feed your garbage down every unwilling throat and will threaten to shoot anyone who has the temerity to utter a burp. We Southerners perfected the idea of free speach, the free and unfettered exchange of ideas and opinions. So, I would not seek to stop you from propounding your twaddle. No. I amuse myself by occasionally giving audience to rantings like yours. I am intrigued to find out each time what outer limits of insanity you will have reached. Be my guest. Go on and frolic in your candy-coated, M & M colored, fantasy land, but leave true Southerners out of your spiteful and vindictive machinations. In the fond memory or Ft. Pillow, I am truly, Dr. Neill H. Payne, Adjutant, I.N. Giffen Camp #758 SCV "God damn you old horse! Now I shall have to shoot you. How dare you fight against your master?" From testimony given in the Congressional investigation into the Incident at Ft. Pillow. These were the last words said to a belligerent Negro by an angry "sesech" just prior to his releasing a fusilade at the miscreant. Fortunately, the shot hit Cuffy in the head. Otherwise, the Confederate could have killed him. SLRC's Payne Angers Real American Subject: A Blast From The Past Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:12:17 EDT From: Gjsooner@aol.com To: major@37thtexas.org Sir(s), I read the letter from Neill Payne. This so-called gentleman AND his organization are racist bigots. His reference to the American Indian as "Squanto" is equal to his reference to the American Indian women "squaws," or more correctly quoted "dumb squaws." I have forwarded a copy of his letter to the American Indian Movement. Kind Regards, Glenn Jones American Indian Movement First Nations Warrior Society Brig. Gen. Stand Watie SCV #1303 Oklahoma I. T.

Update

The 37th was contacted (July 13, 2001) by the REAL Arthur Baker disclaiming this Email correspondence and offering "I would not be surprised if Anthony Hervey wrote it and forged my name, as he did on at least two dozens checks in the Oxford area."

Background

In an amazing display of racism, intolerance, and illiteracy both Anthony Hervey ("President" of the so-called "Black Confederate Soldier Foundation") and the barely-literate Arthur Baker (white, but position with BCSF unknown)* (see important update below) have attacked 2nd SGT Harrison of the 37th Texas for questioning their activities and their methods. They have labeled him a "fascist" [sic], a "white racist liberal" (!!!), and a "dumb ni**er." In late 1999 the 37th Texas contacted Mr. Hervey and offered our assistance in equipping the "hundreds of Black Confederates" he claimed would be marching through Mississippi. At that time, the 37th was told that the BCSF had "...raised over $100,000." When the 37th attempted to contact the BCSF again their Email address was no longer valid and all phone numbers listed were reported by the phone company to have been disconnected. In October, 2000, at the Annual Fall Military Muster at Beauvoir, Biloxi, Mississippi, the Commanding Officer of the 37th heard Mr. Hervey "speak," claim poverty, promise a "march of dozens of Black Confederates," and solicit handouts to sponsor this "march." One wonders why an organization which has "raised $100,000" would need to literally pass the bucket. Mr. Hervey appeared delighted to meet in-person and reiterated his scheduled march and his need to obtain uniforms. Several people have informed the 37th that they traveled the "march route" on the appointed day and saw no one. There was a rumor circulated via Email that Mr. Hervey had been the intended victim of an attempted shooting for his activities. When the 37th requested that someone provide a police case number or a copy of a police report there was sudden silence. The following excerpts of Email exchanges between the 37th, 2nd SGT Harrison, and Mr. Hervey and Mr. Baker are lengthy, but very enlightening (boldface added by the editor). 2nd SGT Harrison has made his personal feelings quite clear.

Another Update! The following inquiry, sent more than a year ago, has not been answered by Anthony Hervey or the BCSF.

Subject: A Disturbing Message Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:43:23 -0600 (CST) Fro:m USAFDefender@webtv.net (Marc S. Allen) To: AnthonyHervey@hotmail.com Mr. Hervey, I received the attached email from another member of the Lowry Rifles. Quite frankly, I'm disturbed and confused by what is alleged to be your responses to Mr. Harrison's questions. I would appreciate it if you would give an explanation of the discourse between you and Mr. Harrison. Additionally, I would appreciate it if you would answer some questions I have about the Black Confederate Soldier's Foundation. How many members does the BCSF have? Is the BCSF incorporated? Does the BCSF enjoy 501 3(C) status with the IRS? Who are the senior officers of the BCSF? How does the BCSF raise funds? How often does the BSCF issue a financial report? How often does the BCSF meet? What activities are on the BCSF calendar for the remainder of 2001? Are you currently involved in a doctoral studies program? I'm sure you are busy, but I believe these questions need answering. Thank you for your attention to them. Respectfully, Marc S. Allen Secretary SCV Camp #1740, The Lowry Rifles

More Information!

Subject: anthony hervey Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:59:46 -0800 (PST) From: Zenda Wheelus <zwheelus@yahoo.com> To: BlckRbl@aol.com hi, I'm z of Wheel and Sabre, I just got a call from James Sheffield of J&L Woodworks, Mr Hervey wrote him a check in excess of $400 at Florewood Plantation in Greenwood a couple of weeks back, it's no good. The bank says the account has been closed. I had taken a check on the foundation, also, at West Point but it apparently has cleared. There is only a PO box address on the check and the phone is continually busy. It sounds as if your suspicions are correct.

Subject: Who the Hell are you! Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:07:27 -0600 From: Black Confederate Soldier Foundation <bcsf@patriotmail.org> To: <major@37thtexas.org> Many of your people have told me that you are a liberal who waves the flag..On my website I have a essay called pimping your hertiage for profit..now the question to you Sir, who the hell are you? Could you be a racist who waves the Confederate Flag..I will pass the this email on to my Lawyer and Another thing I am not a member of the SCV so I do I care about what a what your rumors say ...I have weather the storms I get this from other Niggers.. Remember the Confederacy fought for Independence...My organization is ran soley by Black people .... we answer not to you or your fascist writer...so you reprimand your unite..and by the way have you sold any rifles yet. Sir, I ask you not to write me again tend to playing reinactment because there are serious people who are trying to liberate themselves and I am one of them. Thank you, President of the Black Confederate Soldier Foundation.... Anthony M. Hervey

Subject: Re: Who the Hell are you! Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:08:35 EST From: 2nd SGT Harrison <BlckRbl@aol.com> Fascist Writer?... Alrighty now, let's start this by acting like true men and true Confederates here shall we? The CSA and its warriors were people of honor and duty. They were also a people of great tolerance, which includes religious tolerance. General Robert E. Lee had a Jewish member of his joint chiefs to tend to matters of significance to Jewish Confederate troops. We of the 37th choose to act and LIVE our lives the very ways our ancestors of old did. Are you now going to refer to General Robert E. Lee as a liberal? I surely hope not. As for myself, I am a devoted modern day Black Confederate sir. I have spoken at numerous rallies, SCV meetings, and am well respected by a VAST number of League of the South members. I have been told I have a way of reaching the very depth of the hearts and souls of those at these meetings that few others can claim. HOWEVER, I do so not asking for one cent of anyone's money, short of gas which I use to drive in my own car to go ANYWHERE in the South I am called upon. I am NOT a glory-hound nor a scam artist seeking money to supplement my own income. My thoughts, words, and deeds come directly from my heart. The 37th as a whole has amassed a well researched and scholarly documented web site of historical FACT that has won the praise of liberals AND conservatives, and the History Channel itself. Of course we non longer link to the History Channel in any way whatsoever due to their highly inaccurate portrayal of the beloved CSA. Sir I have been to, and spoken at as many rallies, radio programs and Heritage meetings as you have. All of them tout the honorable work the 37th has done, and the massive and beautiful web site we have produced. While your name and "organization" does get mentioned, it is with much skepticism. These events I refer to include the "Put it Back on the Dome" rally this past January, the SC state League of the South Convention, I recently attended, Southern Party conventions and caucus meetings, and various SCV camp meetings. Very FEW people mention your group and those that do, usually do so with much contempt. We are not they only people that find your "efforts" to be highly suspicious to say the least. Actions speak louder than words sir. If you and your group are legit, than come out and prove it. How about showing your accounting information on the "donations" you have solicited, and prove the money is being used for what you say you are using it for. The Gauntlet has been laid. With all of the hard work TRUE Black Confederates like myself, Nelson Winbush, Bobbie Chandler, and the late, but GREAT Eddie Page, you are subverting the great work we all have done and continue to do by generating great mistrust and racial divisiveness between Southerners. All of us work very hard to gain the respect and trust of our fellow Southerners, and your con game comes along, and all of a sudden, I am bombarded with questions about the validity of your organization. However, I know faith and TRUTH always win. Never to Proud to be a TRUE Black Confederate! 2nd Sergeant Bob Harrison, 37th Texas Cavalry, Company B, CSA

Subject: Please no more Tarzan letters Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:17:37 -0600 From: Black Confederate Soldier Foundation <bcsf@patriotmail.org> To: 2nd SGT Harrison <BlckRbl@aol.com> Mr. Blackrebel, Mr. Hervey has a book deal, speaking engagements to attend to he will be appearing on Oprah show and the Larry King Live not to mention he is trying to finish his Ph.D. He told me that he will send you rebels a ticket once the contracts are signed with Oprah and King's agent we can only send one ticket since we have only ten seats. Anthony, want me to tell you sir that he is very proud that you speak at scv camps and that you think that we boys are here cons..it adds more excitement to the cause. He is proud of you if he was there he would pat you on your back for a job well done, but better yet he will send you a signed autographed copy of his book The End of Ni**erism..he has a chapter called slaves of the Confederacy that you sir would enjoy. Almost forgot! To asked for the account records of a company sound rather petty (sounds like you are a jealous Black man who wants all the white attention..we hope that you do not feel that our organization is moving in on the special negro spot that you have with your white friends in Texas.. Mr. Hervey also wanted me to rely to you that you should see yourself as an American who is standing up against lies about the Confederacy to see yourself as blackrebel or a black anything is to buy into scientific rascism.(Dr. King fought for an American that was not race based) Let us not fool ourselves there are as many people who wave the flag that are racist. Now Mr. Blackrebel the next time a white man tell you to bark at a person you should find out why you are barking ...no intelligent person would come out like you did unless you are trying to impress the good white fokes who are racist who wave the flag. Mr Hervey stated that your letter will be used on his website to and a good source for his future speeches. Do not fool yourself with the name Black Confederate Soldier Foundation...we do not see ourselves as Black we see ourselves as Americans who happen to be coined Black by a rascist society [editor's note - Mr. Baker later calls himself a "so-called white man"!?!]we are christain not black christain..Mr. Hervey is a Sociologist he is not a Black Sociologist. We know if you did not call yourself a black rebel people would not listen to you... Another thing you should see yourself as a Southerner..(You are a racist and you are trying to benefit from it, our organization understand it is all about politics.. We thank you for protecting your masters ...sorry I mean unit and we hope that you do not fall out of the special negro among the good ole white liberal racist..so many negroes do. This is why (we) Mr. Hervey refused to join any White ran unit..this is not 1861 Black people have rights they can run companies without the white man dictating to him what to do. It is obvious by your tone..that your boss wrote you to write us...without you investigating or even calling us you attacked..when our organization started up where were your praises we got none from you..but soon as your master say that ni**er ain't right you attack..how sad you sound. We know how you feel we had to get rid of about ten negroes with your mindset...Now we would like you to go back to your unit and ask them to make you General or Some one in high command since you prove your loyalty to there confederacy and see what your master sorry I mean Major says tell him you want to be a Major in the unit. Now I do not want you writing us telling us that you do not want to be this and that these are only excuses... or better yet let him be a private.. Also Mr. Hervey want you to join your local militia we believe in bearing arms and go to church pray about your inferioty complex..there is a Book by Franz Fanon called Black Skin White Mask it would help you to understand your actions... now you go back to the big house boy and you tell your massus that Tarzan does not work here! Almost forgot to tell you some more good news we are about to recieve a grant to start the first ever Black Southern Museum for a con our organization is doing rather good to end racism, sexism and facism from our society. Mr. Blackrebel, we have heard it all before...we have seen the scared negro who does not want to upset the good rascist white fokes in there group because they make you feel special. Sir, we would advise you to start your on unit up...and take charge..it is to much racism in those organization like the one you are in. They will tell you how much they admire what you are doing and thank you ...hell they will even take you out to dinner let you meet there kids but deep down inside they are still racist who wave the flag. Please get off the plantation...it alright do not be afraid..it is your constitution rights.. Hell we are even planning for Mr. Hervey to run for Governor of the State of Mississippi...that would be grand the first so called black governor of the Great State of Mississippi now that will show the rest of the world that the South is not what they think...so keep up the good work boy! Mr. Hervey is a great force he is a Christain man who has truth on his side...now he can rather vicious .... so let you not be a victim of a this political game. You know I would not even put it pass that this email was written by the Major himself because I can not beleive that I black man could not be so slavish as to attack another black man because a racist white man is jealous of his Independent. I refuse to believe a negro of today would be that stupid..ole well stupidity has nothing to do with race or gender. Signed Arthur Baker, by a so called white man who knows how silence racist work..do not be fooled Mr. Blackrebel by the nice smiles and the hand shakes my family taught me how to keep black people in there place...The directness of Mr. Hervey made me see how wrong I was and I have God in my life now I do not answer to anyone except him.. For now on sir if you want to talk or write please address your letters petty jealously in the confederacy we have a big elections to save our state flag here we must put our efforts for this because to answer mail of this sort only takes away from the thousands of emails that says thank you for all that we are doing you know the letters you probably got a few yourself. This is war not for the confederacy or white fokes or black fokes it is a war to expose those who are facist and those who are not ...you must understand that you will find that your worst enemy is not out there Mr. Blackrebel but rather the enemy within...we must say no the the attitude of white ni**ers and black ni**ers. So please no more Tarzan letters ...please wait until after the flag vote.

Subject: Re: Please no more Tarzan letters Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:04:34 EST From: 2nd SGT Harrison <BlckRbl@aol.com> To: bcsf@patriotmail.org Truly Amazing! Obviously you and your cohorts have a nice con game going and don't like being called on the carpet. Your email is filled with racist diatribe yet you refer to my Unit's CO as a "Master" and "liberal." This is typical NAACP and Nation of Islam rhetoric designed to keep the races apart. I refer to your comment about my having a "white face" as an example. You are just like several of he black militant preachers of old. You preach Black Pride and yet turn around in the same breath and slyly attend KKK and Nazi rallies as did Malcolm X and Louis Farakahn. Obviously your history of the CSA needs some intense work as well. The CSA sir was a true multicultural gathering of folks from virtually all ethnicities. Trying to make the CSA a Black dominated venture is discrimination. You call my unit CO a "master" and claim that I have a "white face?" If you are truly interested in being AMERICAN as opposed to African American, there shouldn't be a need for so much black militant rhetoric that you pathetically try to shout at me. Sir I am a true Southerner who fights for ALL of the South and not just blacks. The Northern machine we call Reconstruction still reigns over the South today with a heavy weight attached. As with Major Michael Kelley, and an ever growing number of Southerners, white AND black, we hold your organization with much suspicion. Your own words through the emails you have sent out, the "fundraising drive" you TRIED to have, his phone number which is always "disconnected," and his email address which always has returned emails sent to him as well as the very words of Mr. Hervey's attorney himself, clearly present your "group" as a con game. Sir this is not a shouting match between liberals or conservatives, or blacks and whites. This cause that Southerners are engaged in involves the survival of an entire culture made up of virtually every ethnicity on the planet. White Face? I guess Nelson Winbush, Bobbie Chandler, Dr. Edward Smith of American University, Dr. Ervin Jordan of the University of VA, and other black scholars and conservatives like myself have white faces too. I suppose Dr. Lerone Bennet of Ebony magazine who wrote Forced into Glory, revealing Lincoln for what he really was has a white face too. It is clear that anyone who doesn't fall into your black militant mindset or blindly follow your "organization" either is a black man with a "white face" or is a white "master." This is not the behavior of a true man, but of a jealous con artist who has been found out for what he really is. If you are a white man as you claim to be, you sure have a strong sense of black nationalist thought within you. The rhetoric about allegedly appearing on Oprah. Mr. Hervey has been saying that for quite sometime now. Talk is cheap. By the way I am sending this email to Mr. Hervey's attorney as well as to the folks who produce Oprah's show. Your calculating efforts to TRY and take the money of good hard working Southerners of ALL ethnicities will end. 2nd Sergeant Bob Harrison, 37th Texas Cavalry, Company B, CSA

Subject: Yassum..you gonna tell Massus ...wees scared Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:35:19 -0600 From: Black Confederate Soldier Foundation <bcsf@patriotmail.org> To: 2nd SGT Harrison <BlckRbl@aol.com> Boy, You run on to the Big House and you tell massus that Mr. Hervey is not falling in line with you boys. And then you tell Massus that Mr. Hervey said for Massus to kiss his ass.We have put a block on your email letters so please Mr. Race Relations CSA negro please do not write this organization any more we have no time for your glorifing how many nergo or indians or jews or what every members you have in your organization...see them as god creatures and stop buying into scientific racism.. I must have touch off a button in you Mr.Negro Confederate or would you like me to call you Black rebel...Its damn good we have a constitution ain't it boys...Now we are asking you nicly please stop harrassing us...Don't you have things to do in Texas or your kissing ass contract have came to an end? Now you go back to boss and you tell him that those Negros in Mississippi are not concerned about how many nubians or sorry or should I have said blackrebels you have in your organization but rather that we allievate racism, fascism, and classism. One thing you I must comment you on is that you in your group have been amusing to say the least. Now f**k off! Again we say that a modern man would not write letters to an organization like this one..I am sure that a white racist is writing this letter who is piss off with a few country boys who happen to have a black skin who refuse to play the race relation game .... we know you are a white racist...we know that there are no more Uncle Toms around .....Because no black man would ever attack another black man unless he has proof...we just can not believe it ...that is why you never sign your name to the letter [Editor's note - 2nd SGT harrison always signed his Email to BCSF]...Black rebel my ass you are a white liberal racist who upset with an organization that is head by a black skin..you coward racist....we were told to stay away from your organization when you all tried to recruit us (we see why now) Your own white brothers and sister do not like your organization we are in agreemment with all what they told us. How insulting to ask us to join and tell us to take a lowly position in your organization [Note:the 37th has two Black 1st SGTs and one Black 2nd SGT]...slavery does not exist anymore like I said Tarzan does not live here. This shit we make good for Mr. Hervey's book thanks for the material. Arthur Baker,

Subject: Re: Yassum..you gonna tell Massus ...wees scared Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:02:09 EST From: 2nd SGT Harrison <BlckRbl@aol.com> To: bcsf@patriotmail.org Coward? Your high syntax errors and POOR grammar amuse me. I am indeed a PROUD Black Confederate American, who just happens to work at SC State University, one of the oldest Historically Black Colleges and Universities in the country. It is I who signed his name to EVERY email I have sent you. It is you and your blatant LIE you are promoting that is the true coward. Every member of the 37th has an email links and various other means by which folks may contact us, whether or not they like us. Its funny. When you first sent me your diatribe, you referred to yourself as a "former white man." Guess the truth comes out afterall. You might to try a little less hiding behind false faces, and do a little more up front honesty for a change. Then people MIGHT actually believe your "organization" is legit. This immature temper tantrum has taken way too much of my time, and I will no longer entertain your racist attitudes and behavior. Any more emails sent by you to my email address will be turned over to your email provider for termination of account privileges. Black People need TRUE men who seek to bring ALL ethnicities together, and you have made it clear you and your "organization" do not fit the bill. Once Again Letting you Know who I am, 2nd Sergeant Bob Harrison, 37th Texas Cavalry, Company B, CSA

Date:Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:22:48 -0600 From: Black Confederate Soldier Foundation <bcsf@patriotmail.org> Subj: Are you writing us again Mr. Charlie? Massus gave you a university boy! What were you to dumb to get into a real university? You dumb fascist you more concern about sentence structure then what is being said. You are the typical educated Negro of Modern America. Keep your eyes on the prize you dumb f**k! I will take away my tax paying money and you will no longer be at that ni**er College you are at... again I reiterate boy go back to the big house and tell your massus that Tarzan does not live here. You made me educated but you lack intelligence you fool.. again you amuse us with your bullshit.. Mr Hervey will be glad to know that another dumb ni**er from a inferior institution wrote us to tell him ...how he should conduct himself around good white folks... If you wasn't so f**king of a coward we might hire you to work for our organization to clean the floors boy! Arthur Baker

Footnote

The 37th Texas apologizes if the language and opinions contained in the Email from the "gentlemen" of the BCSF or SLRC are offensive to the reader despite our efforts to "asterisk" offensive words, but the true impact and intent of the messages require verbatim quotes. As is our policy, we leave it to the reader to make an individual assessment regarding the BCSF or the SLRC. Please feel free to contact the 37th directly (Email) or 1st SGT Harrison (Email) if we may be of further assistance.

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